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Michaela-x
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Student revolt
I was dreaming the other day, and I was thinking...
there are a lot more students than teachers, right?
I mean, we could revolt!
Wouldn't it be great! I was planning it and everything.
We would get into serious trouble, blah blah, but ah well!
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Re: Student revolt
To tell you the truth, I really don't see that happening.
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I know it won't actually happen, but its a thought isn't it?
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Re: Student revolt
Michaela-x Wrote:I know it won't actually happen, but its a thought isn't it?
lol. I've been thinking this and saying this for the like the past year. It's easy to win. Simply get every student all over the world to stop going to school.
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Re: Student revolt
I wonder how the government would react to millions of kids suddenly not going to school.
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Stratovarius Wrote:I wonder how the government would react to millions of kids suddenly not going to school.
They'd try to convince them to go back, either through force or 'persuasion' *cough* blackmail and threats *cough*.
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Re: Student revolt
Yeah, it would be kind of strange, wouldn't it? I mean, its ilegal to resort to "force" so I don't know how they would get us to go back to school, though they would certainally try!
Well I was thinking more go to school, and wreak havok. Then when they start getting realy cross, drop out.
Start off small, like not doing homework and refuse to do what they say, and then get bigger, basically break every rule you can!
I mean, there would be some goodie people who "don't want to do it" but they're easy to deal with.
Anyone any ideas?
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no, they could use force. they already have truant officers, so it would be legal to send police out to bring students back to school and keep it running. and if it got violent and enough kids were involved they could declare a state of emergency, invoke the Insurrection Act, and use national guard. anyone preparing a student revolt had better be ready for a serious fight.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
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No, if it comes to a serious fight then we have already won. Parents have natural instincts which although stupid can be an advantage. Parents would not like to see their kids being beaten and being dragged to school. Guess how many parents there are? Those truant officers probably have kids themselves.
Even if the parents didn't care, if they need to literally force people to go to school I think we have won. They cannot imprison all the teenagers in a country(if they did the whole country would collapse to nothingness). They cannot kill all the teenagers in a country.
If it got so bad, so insane that they put iron bars around schools and used tasers to control them from day to day life, then if all the students fight back they would not be able to control them for more than a few days. If all the students started rebelling with guns, they would not massacre the whole teenage population just so they go to school. If they did this their country would have no future, no workers, for a very long time.
They will have no choice but to find a better replacement for school or fix it so much that we want to go. I can see this happening, this is how other revolutions started. All revolutions were unlikely but revolutions seem to happen when things start to get really bad, and the revolution fixes it rapidly.
My point is that you are right, if all students rebel we win. Even though I gave examples it is highly unlikely that we would have to resort to violence. They would probably try to brainwash people back into school. If even 70-80% rebels we win. Now, to convince people to sleep in everyday.
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If we revolted, which would be highly unlikely in the first place, we would have to have patience and persistence. Which is uncommon among today's youth. Damn.
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If we did revolt which would be cool the government and parents could still stop us. For some people they would block or cancel all television shows for kids and if that doesnt stop them the could make alot of people have to lose there jobs.if you were some one not so smart you wouldn't be able to progress with your study making them idiots and creating a poor economy wouldn't it ?
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But it would still be awsome.
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*sigh*what a great dream that is!!
I suppose if we got 1 person stationed at every school and had them start up little rebellion groups, then start slowly spreading the ideas, maybe. There are more of us, and we happen to be in a position of power. Most students today hate waking up and going to school, would it not be easy to just convince them that not going would be worth it? Eh, probably >.<
Maybe we could start with targeting standardized tests or something. Just a mass refusal to take them like in New York earlier.
Either way all the students involved would have be really involved and believe in the cause, which they wouldn't. For most if their precious television shows were cut off from them they'd give up =[ We're just extremists!(which kinda unrelated but I discovered today I can't search terrorism or extremist at my school...it gets blocked XD)
It is a great dream, maybe once things get worse(which we all know they will!) it can happen!!
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Re: Student revolt
liq3 Wrote:Stratovarius Wrote:I wonder how the government would react to millions of kids suddenly not going to school.
They'd try to convince them to go back, either through force or 'persuasion' *cough* blackmail and threats *cough*.
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the problem with parents is that they all believe school is what's best, so they might not object to the police using non-lethal force. don't count on parents' protective instincts to swoop in and save the day, remember, those boot camps wouldn't exist if no parents paid for their kids to be sent there.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
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If there was a big gathering of students, it would turn out like the opening scene of The Warriors.
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I just think that if at lest 70% students did this then it would be impossible to stop them. A country cannot afford to kill all its teenagers.
If it comes to violence, I wouldn't mind it, but lots of people don't support violent revolutions. I mean, if it comes to the point where they are beating up millions of teenagers then I would definitely support counter violence.
If it comes to an extreme, we have an advantage. You know what that is? It is the fact that they would be killing their own kids! They would be destroying themselves, their own economy, their own race.
PS I like the idea someone gave of everyone creating rebellion in their own schools. We would need to convince them that they can win, and that the schools can't do anything to them if they all rebel(just like school walkouts). And this is the truth.
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I think the parental instincts would kick in if teenagers were being beat up/killed. Maybe or maybe not if it was only mild violence.
So who wants to organize a revolution? lol
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Well we could all do it. How about we gather a large list of schools first?
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My old high school is going on the list because I hated that place:
Llano High School in Llano, TX
The problem with all this is that people would be revolting for the wrong reason. If this actually happened, people would just do it because they would think it's cool to be violent and rebellious or something... and not be standing up for higher principles.
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The whole moon and the entire sky are reflected in one dewdrop on the grass. - Dogen
Great Faith. Great Doubt. Great Effort. - The three qualities necessary for training. - Zen saying
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We could make it clear why it's happening. Simply tell them they have the right not to go to school if it hurts them. Nice and simple, let them have their own internal perspectives.
Ok I'm making a text file of the schools starting with yours(nobody depend on mine tho, my PC is rusty!)
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A revolution is probably the stupidest thing you can do.
Not that it wouldn't be cool and make the world better, but it is near suicide. Also, if you even get a moderate revolutionary following they will kill you and say you were in a car wreck or something similar. Have you heard of Men In Black, even though Hollywood has made satires of the subject I'm sure they exist and that they make sure we never know exactly what's going on in the world.
They are smarter than us, they have better weapons, and they have brainwashed the general populace. A rebellion in the US of A is very stupid, more stupid than the Revolution that started this country.
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Then I'm bringing them down with me.
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The way I see it:
Some day there will be a world where revolution can happen, but it is not now. The most we can do is keep our minds free and the spirit alive. Maybe someday in the near future we can actually have a revolution or maybe in the distant future our children can.
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LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT COLUMBINE GUYS, SEE YOU THERE!
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Probably Weswammy Wrote:A revolution is probably the stupidest thing you can do.
Not that it wouldn't be cool and make the world better, but it is near suicide. Also, if you even get a moderate revolutionary following they will kill you and say you were in a car wreck or something similar. Have you heard of Men In Black, even though Hollywood has made satires of the subject I'm sure they exist and that they make sure we never know exactly what's going on in the world.
They are smarter than us, they have better weapons, and they have brainwashed the general populace. A rebellion in the US of A is very stupid, more stupid than the Revolution that started this country.
...You failed there. A revolution would first require they are de-brainwashed.
Also, paranoid much?
Probably Weswammy Wrote:The way I see it:
Some day there will be a world where revolution can happen, but it is not now. The most we can do is keep our minds free and the spirit alive. Maybe someday in the near future we can actually have a revolution or maybe in the distant future our children can.
 Are you actually saying that the gov's strangle hold is going to get WEAKER!? Last I checked, people are getting more brain washed and more of the gov's tools are being put in place.
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i dunno, whenever i think that a revolutionary uprising would be futile suicide, i just look at Iraq and Vietnam. the US military has proved itself very poor at handling guerilla warfare, and even if the government wasn't physically overthrown, a campaign of raids and sabotage would become a quagmire that would drain military resources, disrupt the infrastructure, and ultimately force them into a position where they have no choice but to negotiate with the rebels.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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What!? A revolution is what brings back sanity.
When there is a fault in the system, if it is a small fault, it takes ages for the system to fix itself. But when it gets really bad the system fixes it really quickly, and if it doesn't the system dies.
A revolution is a rapid fix. It comes about when things really are bad. IF there is no revolution, it will never get better.
If there is no revolution, you'll see your children suffer the way you did or perhaps you will suffer as society destroys itself.
In 6 years time, do you want to look back and regret not having done anything, as you sleep on the city floor among the dumbified population that has almost completely driven itself to self destruction, or do you want to look back and remember what you did to fix things?
No, revolution is not about guns or violence. Revolution is about FIXING things. It is about peace, and ending your daily pain brought to you by the prisons that abuse you.
How about we make this list of schools?
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I would l;ove to add my school to that list...my only qualm is that I don't know very many people, and I know even fewer who would take me seriously. So I'm not sure I could do anything to help. And the ones that might take me seriously would do it for the very worst reasons.
I understand that this would help, and yet I have doubts anyone could pull off a real school revolution. There are so many problems, and yet very few people actually want to change them.
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I don't think it matters why people want to take part in the revolution, I think we simply have to state clearly what we want and why we want it. Perhaps we need a new website which we could refer people to when they ask what this is all about.
Then perhaps at the site there could be a list of schools and there could be pamphlets and brochures to be downloaded and printed out for each school, with slightly different designs for each school. Then people could simply come to the website and download the pamphlets to hand out at their school. This way, the website owner doesn't actually have to take part in the revolution but provide ways for other people to do it.
I am just wondering if the site would be legal or not(since it technically encourages people to break the law)...if its not illegal then someone can host it.
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